The series heads north by northwest to Portland, Oregon to uncover a surprisingly hideous history: could it be that this hipster mecca was founded as a whites-only utopia? Answer: hell, yeah. When a curator has to rub shoulders with Neo-Nazis during the installation of her exhibition, there may well be trouble built into the very fabric of the state. We speak to the broader arts community in Portland to tease out the fine threads of race, land, ownership and identity and ask - as tanks roll down city streets elsewhere - if Oregon is a warning from the past or a glimpse into the future.
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Guests: Maya Benton, Flint Jamison, Lulani Arquette, Kristan Kennedy, Ashley Stull Meyers and Hank Willis Thomas
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Today you'll hear from that echelon who are really running America's museums: the board. This is where the real power in museums resides. We'll find out if these trustees have fully grasped the issues that museums need to tackle today. Do they have ambitious enough solutions? Who makes sure the museum sticks to its mission, or that the trustees are doing their job? After all - who governs the governors?
Tune in to find out.
Guests: Sarah Arison, Fred Bidwell, Pam Kramlich, Jill Kraus, Larry Marx, Brooke A. Minto, Victoria Rogers and Marc Schwartz
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Having examined the pressure mounting on institutions from the street, the public galleries and then from within - this penultimate museum-focused episode asks who’d want to run one? Hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman ask the director of the Met how comfortable that throne really is. Who should run the nation’s museums? Who’d want to, amidst a world of shifting certainties? Hope & Dread has the answers.
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Guests: Catherine Arias, Sarah Arison, Fred Bidwell, Deana Haggag, Max Hollein, Sandra Jackson-Dumont, Naima J. Keith, Jill Kraus, Mia Locks, Tiona Nekkia McClodden, Dr Kelli Morgan, Hank Willis Thomas and Amy Webb
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We’re going behind the scenes at the museum to better understand the recent groundswell of voices criticizing museum power structures as they exist, coming in the form of unionization efforts, artist-led activism and open letters by disgruntled staff. Are museums practicing what they preach? After all, if you can perfectly preserve a 14th-Century Persian carpet in a climate-controlled glass vitrine, shouldn't you be able to look after your staff, too?
Tune in to find out.
Guests: Catherine Arias, Fred Bidwell, Deana Haggag, Kathy Halbreich, Max Hollein, Kristan Kennedy, Mia Locks, Larry Marx, Ashley Stull Meyers and Marc Schwartz
New episodes available every Wednesday.
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Museums have become cultural battlegrounds—monuments to meaning that are struggling to contain democracy. Museums have mushroomed: from audience numbers to board members, from the value of art to the real estate that houses it, and from international interest to the size of local protests.
Hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman will guide you through the troubled museum system over the next four episodes, beginning on the streets and working our way inside—from the galleries to the staff offices, up to the boardroom.
In today’s show they ask: if the current model isn’t working - should we just build new museums?
Guests: Lulani Arquette, Miki Garcia, Roxane Gay, Deana Haggag, Max Hollein, Sandra Jackson-Dumont, Jill Kraus, Dr. Kelli Morgan and Farah Nayeri
New episodes available every Wednesday.
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Political arguments and cultural debates have become indivisible in recent years and this episode explores ideas around controlling culture from above. Hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman will hear from a British politician who says he’d return the controversial “Elgin Marbles” to Greece if he had the chance and, as China cracks down on dissenting voices with its national security law for Hong Kong, they also speak to an artist who recently left the city for fear of her safety. What happens when governments try to control culture? Tune in to find out.
Guests: Farah Nayeri, Tiffany Sia, The Rt Hon Lord Smith of Finsbury, The Rt Hon Lord Vaizey of Didcot and Amy Webb
America’s public spaces have been throbbing with the sounds of loud arguments about history and identity, encapsulated by the debate over Confederate monuments. In this episode, hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman introduce you to artists and curators suggesting new ways of dealing with American history—taking you behind the arguments about whether statues should stay or go and offering a nuanced perspective on a haunted history.
Guests: Maya Benton, Thomas Finkelpearl, Roxane Gay, Jackson Polys, Hamza Walker
Introducing this new documentary series exploring power in art, hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman discuss the biggest challenges in the cultural world today. At a moment of epochal shifts and changing certainties, these are issues that extend well beyond the art world—from governments and human rights, to history and democracy.
Arguments around monuments are linked to debates about museums: what they show, what they own, who they employ. Who is at the top of these institutions, who funds them and how does the market come into play? Who’s driving the wagon and who’s trying to seize the reins? And do you need to buckle up to ride out the journey?
Introducing this new documentary series exploring power in art, hosts Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman discuss the biggest challenges in the cultural world today. At a moment of epochal shifts and changing certainties, these are issues that extend well beyond the art world—from governments and human rights, to history and democracy.
Arguments around monuments are linked to debates about museums: what they show, what they own, who they employ. Who is at the top of these institutions, who funds them and how does the market come into play? Who’s driving the wagon and who’s trying to seize the reins? And do you need to buckle up to ride out the journey?
Guests: Deana Haggag, Mia Locks, Jay Sanders and The Rt Hon Lord Vaizey of Didcot
From acts of solidarity to new business models, many in the art world are teaming up during this pandemic to bolster the system and rethink its infrastructure. Joining us for today’s show are guests including financial journalist Felix Salmon; gallerists Sadie Coles of Sadie Coles HQ and Vanessa Carlos of Carlos/Ishikawa; artist Doron Langberg; culture and politics writer Marisa Mazria Katz; and nonprofit executives Carolyn Ramo of Artadia and Deana Haggag of United States Artists.
“We are all protecting our small castle or encampment and promoting our own content,” says Sadie Coles. “But actually, if you start reaching out to people, it is all about dialogue— and things develop from there.”
For more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-79-covid-19-second-podcast/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
Will Covid-19—which is so far spreading unevenly in the US, hitting low-income or black communities the hardest—exacerbate the inequities in the art world? In our 78th episode, host Charlotte Burns and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP and a chairman of Sotheby’s) discuss the impact of the coronavirus pandemic. Can art itself provide solace during this period of grief and fear? And how will the art world and its market make it through?
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Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-78-will-the-art-world-remain-resilient/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
“Art is about ideas, transgression and transformation," says gallerist Sadie Coles, who founded her eponymous gallery, Sadie Coles HQ, in London's Mayfair neighborhood in 1997, and now has two spaces in the UK capital. "And art needs freedom."
In this wide-ranging podcast, recorded in London earlier in the year with host Charlotte Burns, Coles talks about everything from the nature of being an art dealer, to the sense of anxiety that has shaped both the market and art in this still-young century—and about the time she moonlighted to as a theatre critic to review a play starring Madonna as a ruthless art world operator.
Coles talks about changes in the gallery system. “Artists now have more power, and I think that's a healthy thing", she says. “The rules, whatever they may be, are in flux right now."
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-75-flux-and-freedom-with-sadie-coles/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
Maureen Paley—a native New Yorker who was recently named one of the Evening Standard's most influential Londoners—has been called a "true pioneer of the East End" for her part in turning the neighborhood into a hub for art and culture.
She opened her gallery in 1984 and “it still remains alive and very vital," she tells host Charlotte Burns. "People like to think of art now as related to commerce and business, but I always saw it that it was related to a type of magic."
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-75-maureen-paley/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
This lively conversation with Stuart Shave and Sarah McCrory was recorded in London shortly before the UK exited Europe at the end of January. McCrory (inaugural director of the Goldsmiths Centre for Contemporary Art in London, which opened in 2018) and Shave (founder of Stuart Shave Modern Art gallery in London) talk to host Charlotte Burns about a range of topics, from ”Google curating” to the environmental crisis; from the #MeToo movement to the cultural climate within the UK. The British art world has always been “in constant revival and renewal," McCrory says. “But I do worry about how we keep it a place for artists, and how we keep it a place for culture."
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-76-stuart-and-sarah/
Tune in for this behind-the-scenes talk between host Charlotte Burns and journalist Jori Finkel on the rise of the L.A. art scene. A California correspondent for The New York Times and The Art Newspaper, as well as author of the book It Speaks to Me: Art That Inspires Artists, Finkel talks about the artists who make the city unique and the real reason why it's become a major arts hub—and it predates Frieze L.A., the second edition of which is being staged this week.
This wide-ranging conversation covers topics from motherhood as "the last taboo in the art market" to why women artists aren't given more "blockbuster" shows, to the ethics of reporting on the art world. For this and much more, download the show today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-74-jori-finkel/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
2019 was a year of protests and profound change. We look back on what happened, what our guests talked about and what our listeners most responded to. Tune in to hear Ian Alteveer (the Aaron I. Fleischman curator of Modern and contemporary art at the Metropolitan Museum), Julia Halperin (the executive editor of artnet News) and host Charlotte Burns review the year—and to hear snippets from our 2019 shows featuring museum directors Nicholas Serota (formerly Tate and now the head of Arts Council England), and Max Hollein (the Metropolitan Museum of Art); The New York Times co-chief art critic Roberta Smith; artists Catherine Opie, Mickalene Thomas, Derrick Adams and Nari Ward; architect David Adjaye; Ford Foundation president Darren Walker, and more.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-74-looking-back-at-2019/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
Recorded live in Napa Valley at the Kramlich Residence—which was built by architects Herzog & De Meuron—this wide-ranging discussion about collecting and supporting art is with guests Pamela and Dick Kramlich, two of the world’s foremost patrons of video, new media and time-based art; Stuart Comer, chief curator of media and performance at the Museum of Modern Art in New York; and artist Richard Mosse, together with host Charlotte Burns.
"We've got to buy masterpieces," Pamela says on today's episode, "or what I think will be the masterpieces of the future, and take care of them."
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
Today’s podcast covers the top takeaways from the recent auction week in New York—and what this means for the market. Nicholas Maclean (of the London and New York dealership Eykyn Maclean) and Allan Schwartzman (co-founder of AAP) join host Charlotte Burns (editor of In Other Words) for our biannual auction edition.
For more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-71-auction-talk-with-allan-schwartzman-and-nicholas-maclean/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm
Tune in for this wide-ranging discussion with artist Catherine Opie, a tenured professor at the University of California, Los Angeles, whose internationally-exhibited art investigates the boom and bust of American life and the subtleties of human identity.
The artist—who famously carved the word “pervert” on her chest in 1994 as part of a work tackling the AIDS crisis and challenging ideas of deviancy—finds tenderness within stereotypes.
Opie discusses what it means to be radical today, and the importance of building communities that can bridge divisions within society, whether finding unity within museum boards or philosophy within the S&M community.
She talks to our host Charlotte Burns about her own success as an artist and her recognition of gender disparity within the art world, and the importance of representation. Opie tells us about her influences and talks about the shifting impact of social media on photography as an art form. She discusses her dream project and her optimism about the art world: “There's shitty books, there's shitty movies, there's shitty art,” she says. “And then there's all the pearls in-between that actually move people.”
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-73-catherine-opie/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
#69: Talking Power with Ford Foundation President Darren Walker and Artist Teresita Fernández
Ford Foundation president Darren Walker and MacArthur “genius” artist Teresita Fernández already had a long history of collaboration before coming together for this discussion with host Charlotte Burns about social justice, leadership, art, beauty—and power.
“The truth is that equity is not given. Power is not given. The history of power is always that it is taken,” Fernández says. “If you want your table to be diverse and inclusive, somebody’s going to have to get up.”
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-69-darren-walker-and-teresita-fernandez/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
The Museum of Modern Art reopens this month after a $450m expansion that has added more than 47,000 sq. ft and many new galleries that tell a different story of modern and contemporary art.
In this podcast, AAP co-founder Allan Schwartzman and In Other Words host Charlotte Burns review the radical rehang of the permanent collection.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-68-live-review-from-the-new-moma/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
This episode answers all of the questions you never knew you had about the objects associated with motherhood, from the unexpected stories behind some of the most ubiquitous designs (did you know that the incubator was inspired by a doctor's trip to the zoo?) to the histories revealed by these objects. For example, the popularity of the baby blanket tracks with the increased industrialization of birth in America over the past 70 years.
Joining our host Charlotte Burns are Amber Winick and Michelle Millar Fisher, the co-creators of “Designing Motherhood: A Century of Making and Unmaking Babies”, the forthcoming book and exhibition that investigate more than 100 designs that have shaped our understanding of parenthood in America over the past century.
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-67-designing-motherhood/
"In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
Only 11% of the art acquired by America’s top museums over the past decade was work made by women. And acquisitions have actually declined since 2009, according to a major new study “Women's Place in the Art World: Why Recent Advancements for Female Artists Are Largely an Illusion ” produced by In Other Words and artnet News.
The report found that there has been no progress in museum acquisitions, and that just 14% of exhibitions were of work by female artists.
The auction market for work by women doubled, but still only represents 2% of the global total—with just five female artists (Yayoi Kusama, Joan Mitchell, Louise Bourgeois, Georgia O'Keeffe and Agnes Martin) accounting for 40.7% of that total.
Discussing the report with host Charlotte Burns are guests Julia Halperin (executive editor, artnet News), Joeonna Bellorado-Samuels (director, Jack Shainman Gallery) and William N. Goetzmann (professor and faculty director of the International Center for Finance, Yale School of Management).
To hear more, tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-66-women-data-study/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.
A year after taking the reins of one of the world’s largest and most important art institutions, Max Hollein joins host Charlotte Burns to discuss the future of the Metropolitan Museum.
Hollein discusses the distinct role he believes the Met can play in terms of contemporary art, and gives an update on recently-stalled plans for a $600m Modern and contemporary wing—part of more than $1bn the museum is slated to spend on renovations and expansions.
In a week in which the Met returned to Egypt an ancient gilded coffin that had been the centerpiece of the exhibition “Nedjemankh and His Gilded Coffin”—but which prosecutors deemed to have been looted, Hollein talks about how the Met is tackling the fraught issue of cultural repatriation. He talks about the museum as a platform for debates: from the morality of where money comes from to diversity in programing and governance.
For this and much more—including what success looks like to Hollein—tune in today.
Transcript: https://www.artagencypartners.com/transcript-64-max-hollein/
“In Other Words” is a presentation of AAP and Sotheby’s, produced by Audiation.fm.