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The Art World: What If...?!

What if we reimagined everything in culture, from painting to patronage? Tune in to The Art World: What If…?! to hear leading thinkers, creators and innovators in art rethink the system, exploring the consequences with wit, wisdom and humor. Join art journalist Charlotte Burns and world-renowned art advisor Allan Schwartzman as they exclusively interview museum leaders, collectors and artists including MoMA director Glenn Lowry, Guggenheim deputy director Naomi Beckwith, non-profit leader Kemi Ilesanmi, curator Cecilia Alemani and Sandra Jackson-Dumont, the director of the Lucas Museum of Narrative Art and many others over the course of the series. From the team behind In Other Words and Hope & Dread, The Art World: What If…?! is brought to you by Schwartzman& for Art& and produced by Studio Burns.
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Now displaying: March, 2022
Mar 23, 2022

In a series dedicated to tectonic shifts in power in art, why did we wait so long to devote a show to the artists themselves? Well, we wanted to paint a picture of the landscape in which those creators now live and work - and as you’ve heard, it is complex. In this episode we hear from artists who want to change the system with their own foundations, support networks and big ideas. These are stories of civic and artistic philanthropy that aren’t about engraving your name in granite but about changing the system—while making meaningful work. But when that big payday comes knocking, how do you stay true to your dream? Tune in to find out.

Guests: Michael Armitage, Jackson Polys, Tiffany Sia, Hank Willis Thomas and Issy Wood

Mar 9, 2022

The series heads north by northwest to Portland, Oregon to uncover a surprisingly hideous history: could it be that this hipster mecca was founded as a whites-only utopia? Answer: hell, yeah. When a curator has to rub shoulders with Neo-Nazis during the installation of her exhibition, there may well be trouble built into the very fabric of the state. We speak to the broader arts community in Portland to tease out the fine threads of race, land, ownership and identity and ask - as tanks roll down city streets elsewhere - if Oregon is a warning from the past or a glimpse into the future.

Tune in to find out. 

Guests: Maya Benton, Flint Jamison, Lulani Arquette, Kristan Kennedy, Ashley Stull Meyers and Hank Willis Thomas

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